The Judy body isn't bad, I find it very good (and sexy!): it's the body of a real woman, like those we meet everyday; mass media imposed unnatural models and many of us forgotten the way are build the body of our women What is bad in Judy is unnatural bending (but Vicky 2 has same trouble and Vicky 3 partly solves it at the cost of a lot of polygons) and lack of body morphs. About the face, yes, its ugly, bat I think its only a placeholder: Judy has a lot of face that you can create with face room and I find more easy de-judyze her than de-vickyze Vicky. Excuse my English, Im Italian