I forgot the conclusion! So Zalmegra, I don't think you are "pompous, sarcastic, hypocritical, boorish, self-important, lamer"...I do think you have a bit unrealistic view on how things work in software development. And uhmm..well, a few lessons in tact and writing style couldn't hurt :) The Engineer. "The best way to communicate with the black boxes called software developers is understanding their problems and trying to help, not to nag."