Ajax - I rebooted the machine, absolutely nothing else but Poser running. Started a clean (new) scene. Loaded ONLY those boots in. Applied one texture - no reflection or trans or bump maps. Just the base texture. Same thing. :( sigh Alright. Guess I'll have to find a different set of boots... because these are just NOT going to take a texture. It applies, it shows the texture pre-render, and then as soon as I render it, it renders white... I don't know what else I can do with it. I can't force the blessed things to render. :( ~Seliah