I have to agree with maxxmodels. In direct comparison to high-end apps, poser gets blown away. Of course, it only costs about 1/20th of the price, so what can you expect? And that's what it comes down to. I'm a photographer and I know I can take a great picture with a rinky-dinky throwaway camera.... if I really, really try hard enough. But why bother? I use nikon and mamiya. They cost a fortune, but hey, they do what they're supposed to. And if your livelihood depends on that, you'll pay the extra bucks. Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking poser. I love it. But it has it's limits and we should recognise that. Of course, the people who scoff at poser just because it's cheap are another matter. They're just dumb snobs. mac