Off the subject....I am kind of curious about metastreaming. I used to do it in RD5.5... and now have Cararra. I have seen that metastreaming has changed in the past year or so.. requiring a keycode to enable. (or something of the sort) Answer me this if you would; Is the original metastream plug-in still on the MetaCreations site ? So, if a person goes to my site and doesn't have the plug-in, is it still there. If this is not so... I think we have just found the breach in contract that Cararra users want to have to assemble their little civil suit upon them. I didn't BUY these products to create and then put onto the web to LEASE a contract to enable their use. This was NEVER part of the original agreement when I purchased the MetaCreations products line which PROCLAIMED nothing pertaining to my having to purchase a key to use this plug-in on my websites. I use FLASH as well.... If MacroMedia were to come along and say , "Oh, thanks for buying our product you now have to PAY to use it on the web if you are a business.",.. Well, if that were the case, they would be out of business faster than the BBB could send out an investigative team. Well, maybe I am wrong. Anyone know what I am rambling on about ?