If anyone sees this asa personal attack - so be it, it isnt intended as such: Re chill: I wasnt aware of the fact pointing out a defacto problem involving no download on a purchase was a review, but then again, that may be a culture thing - even though I have been told by the PtB that wasn't supposed to happen. I really do wish that you, dialyn, sometimes stopped up and tried to look at things from the other side - I know you are very protective of rendo, and thats commendable, but at the same time, that protectiveness can also cause flames and tempers if you automatically go into defense mode whenever people have a ~legit~ complaint. I have worked a lot with databases and websites - from directory inquiries databases to the Manpower web-portals (which are beasts), and up to recently I headed a web-browser development team with two others, so I actually -do- know how these things work. I can understand that all the complaining in the forums you frequent gets on your nerves. It gets me pretty pissed too at times. But at the same time, what you are doing now seems like you are pooh-pooh-ing people's problems with the new site, and I dont think that the problems people are having are minuscule - they prohibit people to do what the RMP is for, namely shop. I am sure the RMP works for some, and not others, but at the same time, rendo should have taken into consideration that not everyone uses default settings, and again - that they are rolling out a new UI after the same old, same old is commendable, but I am again wondering why there is no parallel run, and no fallback, specially not if it's the same database. I could be hopelessly naive in believing MySQL would be able to do that, but then so be it. I posted a css hack to get around the rendy colours a while back - would people be interested in me reposting it ? ~S