Well, there is MTS2 and now MTS3. What seems to have happened is that Metacraeations dumped all their products in favor of MetaStreaming3. MTS2 was incorporated into all of their 3D products, Poser, Carrara, Canoma, RDS, Bryce. Now, it seems as if MTS2 is being phased out, and you need to spend a few more bucks to get involved with MTS3, sort of like being nickel and dimed to death. With MetaCreations/MetaStream, it always seems like the old carrot and stick method of creating revenue.Seems like a simple situation of good product's, greedy, piss-poor management.You seem to be on the right track, if you know what I mean.