Hi Tunesy, i believe that i've tried almost all 3d softwares in the market. In my opinion there aren't 3d package in wich you can create with the speed of Carrara (and Amapi). I've tried Wings some days ago, but vertex modeler is too much better. If you want you can visit my gallery and take a look at the "paper render" series. There are a large number of objects and polygons, but i've modeled every complex scene in 2-3 hours. Oh, this is only an opinion, but for me Carrara is the best:P -TOXE