"Another one I've found is Xena's JF outfit (at PoserPros)" That only comes for Mike 3, doesn't it? Anyway, I'll check it out. I played around some with the Imagination Gown, turning the bottom half transparent and it's not too bad but the sleeves are tight where they should be flowing. Which can be covered by the outer robe ... except on the character who doesn't wear one :-( Regarding David, check out the Daz forum. From what I read I got the impression he's going to be a standalone; the big question -- aside from the release date -- is how compatible he's gonna be with all that stuff made for Mike. If he's not, a lot of folks who spent big bucks on M3 are gonna be very, very unhappy. And I wouldn't blame them a bit.