The 'Guardian Knight' outfit for Mike at Poserworld should look remarkably familiar *cough* Lest I get yelled at by the Mod Squad I won't say anything more :) Clothing convertor can be used to convert M3 to M stuff BUT works best if you have M3. Also I'd say its an advanced program. If you don't really understand cr2's, joint paramters and cr2 structure you might get stuck. pdxjim yeah you make great f*ck me clothes :) now just make some more for M3 and Freak and we'll love you forever Lyrra