Hi to all I'm following this problem since the beginning and this is my considerations: 1 - cloning a celebrity....where is the problem? if i want a render with britney spears i try to do something close to the original britney.....or i'll make a render with a unknow girl, but the cool thing of the 3d program like poser is that you can realize your fantasy ^^ 2 -Why in the whole internet is impossible to find celebrity morphs or models? the copyright laws protect the person agaisnt the one that want to sell those characters...if you do a celebrity (example britney spears) and you want to rename as "bratney Spars" and give it for free....where is the problem?????? all the sites that has those models are closed :((((( this is the freedom of internet? 3 - Facegen VS poser faceroom: who cares what kind of tool you use? if the results are good noone will be interested in what kind of tool is used; the artist will ask only about the method that is used ^^ for me both are hard because i'm a beginner :D but seem that facegen (i bought it, but i've not so much money to buy the service that transform the pctures in a fg file T_T) is amazing for the creation of faces from pictures (faceroom is a little bit tricky.....i never had decent results but i'm still work hard on it^^), but faceroom also is good, as i seen in the picture linked some posts before. I'm interested only in the final result.....sometimes i see the same discussion as when the peoples was fighting for what was the best computer between commodore amiga and atari ST, or C64 and Spectrum ^^ This is what i think......maybe i'm right; maybe i'm wrong; but the celebrity cloning is something that a lot of people that use 3d do, and many people search celebrity on internet for their render ;) so let's work to do a concrete post, instead of fighting if is legal to do it , or if facegen is better than faceroom :P