Ok all, Daz has done it right. Every problem I had with M3 and the V3 male have been addressed in David. He's got more options and better morphs than anything I've seen out of Daz yet. Muscles are nice, better than M3. He's got a definition morph! No more added bulk when you want muscle cut. He bulks up better, and looks more natural thinner than M3. With a little work (advanced hackers only, you have to edit the injection poses), and V3, SP, or She-Freak morph can be used with him. Resizing him to 110% makes him M3 sized. He's almost identical in height to Seth, the Aeon teen. He's enough of a variation from M3 and the V3 male that he doesn't look like a clone. My only complaint is that he's a non-zero conformer, and I'm still working on conforming the clothing I made to him. Not really David's fault, I'm just not experienced with working with non-zero conformers. MallenLane, thank you. P.S. Quick side note: If you take any figure that is grouped like David (V3, SP, or the She-Freak) and export the body parts as morph targets, they apply just fine to David. Using them in combination and offsets gives some really neat effect. I applied both V3 and the She-Freak as morph targets to David, set the V3 morphs to -.5 and the She-Freak at .5, and get a neat, freakish morph. The same can be done with the V3 male morphs.