lyra i apologize my eglish is not so very good. but i do not like to use translatores programs. will never get better if i do those. tho i think that sense they act the same when you loade them onto poser they count they are not charactres for the other figues they do have their own geometery if it is because another figue is require then shefreak does not count either because v3 is requied. for her. daniel is an M3 groupinged figue math man.