Thank you all for being so helpful. Let me update and for the record. But first let me respond to the easy points. Momcat: I said unzipp because I thought that was part of what the DAZ installer did. I don't know what else to call it. Marque: No, I did not install DAZ studio. Melanie: I use P4. Yes it was the rsrs in the geometry folders that I deleted. Fyrespirit: Good to know about poser eating rsrs! I may try your suggestion when I get a chance. I use windows XP and am using a low res map. Now let me tell you guys where things stand. I eventually figured out that whatever my problem #1 was I could delete the rsrs, load up David and save him in the figures library and add morphs etc. Then close poser if it did not crash and there he was working normally. The remaining problem #2 was that when I tried to apply the body texture poser would always freeze/crash after it asked for the bump.bum and I told it that I did not want to keep looking for the bumps. Of course I knew that I would have to convert them in the materials dropdown. But poser would not let me get that far. So I thought about it, and next I loaded my David from figures and found I could apply textures to the GENITALS figure and that poser would not crash and that I could save it that way. Ah ha! Then I could load up the genitals with the genital texture only applied and go in and change ALL the bump.jpgs to bump.bum With this done, poser could find the bums and there was no problem. The sticker had been that when poser did not find Davids body bums it freaked. [Rhaseltine: I guess in retrospect there was another way to do this, but I did not understand it at the time and so did not try it. I am still pretty much a novice at computer files and all.] Now I have what seems to be a perfectly functional David in my figures and I can shut down poser and the computer and he comes up normally with no problems. So now I am wondering whether I should leave well enough alone or go in and tinker to see what happens if I write protect the rsrs, and or uninstall the whole David business and reinstall David. Or? I agree with the praise that people have given to David. I am quite pleasantly surprised with the improvements in quality. I was never happy with M3 and always have to think about how to pose him so that the defects are not too problematic. M2 was okay, but still had more limitations so far as I can see than David. So fooling around with David himself is much more fun for me right now than going back and fooling around with poser itself!! I am not anxious to do that unless there is a good reason, now that I have a working model.