Drats!! MAXXX You bursted my bubble! Well I guess you can't have champaign on a beer budget! Thanks for the info... There goes any hope of the book called "How to create Photorealistic Animations At Home On A Low Budget" Of course who would have thought 5 years ago that Poser characters would look as good as they do now. I think some people have come up with some pretty clever workarounds. After all its all binary code creating optical illusions of 2-D image bits...