shadow.. thank you for the big support.. Boolean and lights are not the tru problem.. I have few booleans and 3 lights with no gel, but they are syill there, the problems are the object missing... the material missing and moreover the camera settings, personally I'm not so good in positioning camera, and I was really happy on the result I had on the original render. NOw I have to try to redo it.. sigh... Today is getting much better... my frustration is lowering and I'll start again this evening... regarding RAM are 256Mb enough? cheers to all, thank you to all, I hope to come back soon with good news... and.. no it's not true... I do not hate Bryce. (maybe ;) )