Thanks Guys and I really mean it! I have been to several sites on the net looking and found this one thanks to copernic :) When I started out in photoshop back in the days of old :) The people were not as nice and most were pretty blunt about you going into their little art world. So I kept to myself a bit away from the net and didn't grow as the tech grew. It will take me some time to learn this all out but I hope to share it all with you. Again Thanks for the tips and the quick replys I'm all ready starting my first real model!!! Thanks P.S. Sorry about the grammer and spelling I'm very tired and never said I was and english major :) I'm an artist :P