David looks okay thin. M3 looks too much like Rubber Man thin, and I find it a challenge to render him at an angle were he does not look so "bumpy" and a little warped here and there. But it can be done.I only got M3 out of curiosity when he was cheap and because there was a lot in the Platinum Club for him cheap. But most often I go back to M2. David may eventually make M2 obsolete for me as I use the two together and compare them more. I need to get a better grip on this cross talk business etc, that I mentioned above. I would like to congratulate DAZ on making an apparently improved product this time with David. They are recovering their reputation for being able to provide progress and keep up with the competition so far a I am concerned.