Heh, heh. There are probably more elf lovers than haters here. Please note, I was not trying to discourage you. Just wanted to let you know what you were getting into. The more clothiers around here the better! :) I'm sure anyone of us will be happy to help you along with tips and ideas. We were all helped once too. If you have or get a demo of Cinema 4D. Steve Shanks has a good tutorial which I believe is at his site. Am I right, Steve? I use Cinema 4D and RayDream. I'm on a Mac and my choices are somewhat more limited. Anyhow, happy modeling.