An important point that I probably should have mentioned before: In other apps when you're in 'front view' you're working in that plane, ditto for 'side view', 'left view', 'camera view', 'birds eye view' or whatever view name the app may use. Point is you're always working in the screen plane essentially, unless you want to constrain out of it. Carraras working box is a needless piece of clutter and redundancy to the way most of the rest of the world operates. In fact, I groaned when I first checked out Amapi and saw their "table" aid. All I could think was, "Man. Why are these guys so hell bent on creating clutter in a 3d world where we really need to strive to eliminate clutter." (See reviews by guys at some of the Apple publications. One reviewer gets almost hostile sounding about it. hehehe.)