Woah nelly! man talk about a change! yipes. This is the "Morning After you picked her up at the bar Sara". Actually its weird, she looks a lil like Vicky now. Good news though! from the neck down the morphs work. The head mesh has changed, so head morphs will need to be made differently for Sara1 and Sara 2. Not sure of the neck, but I imagine some changes there as well. To install without overriding Unzip newly downloaded Sara into a temp folder. Change the sara2.obj to sara2b.obj open the !sara.cr2 in WordPad and change the 2 references to sara2.obj to sara2b.obj. Save and exit. (use search, its a looong file) change Sara.cr2 to Sara2.cr2 Now you can copy the new sara stuff over to your runtime without losing the old sara. to install Simon onto the new Sara install sara2 according to the above download and install Simon for Sara from my website Download and install MorphManagaer from Freestuff if you don't have it already. Start MM. Open Sara2 in one window and Simon in the other. Copy over the thickwaist and norack morphs from Simon's rCollar, lCollar, Chest, Abdomen, Hip, lButtock and rButtock. Save. You now have Simon for Sara2. Congrats. Oddly enough the new face works nicely for Simon lol Lyrra