Thanks for your opinions...As for the density in the barrel...my first try had 16 sides and showed up REAL badly in poser even with a texture applied. I did this to "create" a more rounded look and it works well. There are alot of ways i could decrease the poly count on this model, but it was becoming a big pain for the start and did what I could just to get it finished. remember though...this was done with no prior 3d experience and was done by trial and error over a months time. I'm sure my next gun will be much better as I just bought 3ds max 5 bible.