yes, not to mention that if someone needs help, well his new post gets kicked 10 pages back and nobody sees it. that just happened to me. i had to post 2x here and either only one person was kind enough to help me out or no one else seen my post, had to go to the other site and post, i know if this keeps up i'll have me a new home page. nobody can help each other if they cant see your post, and who wants to go back 10 pages to see if they missed something everyday? this site has been home for over a year now hate to change it but hey it would be their loss. 90% of the people here frequant the other site so i know i can still get top of the line help by the same great artists but just at another board jeff (blab,blab,blab)