First, as anyone who's followed the Poser Forum for a while knows, I was, uh, VERY dissappointed with P5. Not so much for what I got, but for the way CL has handled the whole P5 episode. I think P5 was a great step forward. I also think we who bought it early were badly cheated, and that CL owes us compensation. They intentionally released a product before they believed it was ready for release, and advertised features they knew were not working. That's called fraud. If CL ever did anything like that again, I'll be calling lawyers and government agencies. That said, CL has since changed hands after their parent company went bankrupt (wonder why?). I'll give the new parent company a chance. Maybe they'll do it better. I will not buy early though. I want some other poor sucker to use the thing for a month or two before I'll put any money into it. And, if there's anything that they say will be released later, I won't buy until it's all released. I also won't buy unless they fix a rather long list of problems still there in P5. I'll also wait until CL doesn't have problems with leading Poser content providers. No more Daz vs. CL crap. And if they include a built-in bowser in the program, they'd better be able to TURN IT OFF. Anyone tried to use Content Paradise lately? Right now it's down. Fool me once..