Well, not being one to blindly go rushing in, when it's not needed(and being an inherant coward when it comes to deleting system files from my computer) I decided to do a restore one week prior to the problems.....so far everything is quiet, and no popups or other distressing things have happened... However, the more I think about it the more a clean slate sounds good, AND I downloaded a bunch of anti-spyware apps to use once everything is clean, to keep it that way. It seems more and more of that stuff is showing up, and the only thing these ads and hijacks are doing is pissing people off, so to me, they're counter productive. The restore at least gives me a little breathing room to off load some things as backups, mostly huge Bryce scene files, my reference libraries and to backup all my models to date, and my marketplace stuff..... I want to thank eveyone for the input and links, I know we all get this crap stuffed in our computers at some point, it's nice to know I'm not alone in trying to get rid of it.... I did a wipe of the computer I thought we were going to sell and it runs faster than the one I'm using now which is way faster(when clean).

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