Having just gotten into that dynamic cloth stuff... gimme. It's great. (in reply to the F*** dynamic cloth above lol) Yeah, P5 was buggy and horrible and whatnot before SR3. SR3 fixed a lot of "issues" (not enough) and made P5 usable. SR4 fixed a few more (and broke others) and made it even more usable. I really don't have a gripe more than I have a wishlist. Spot renders (ala bryce) would be fantastic to preview parts of a render before committing to the full thing. (You know, render the foot, check if it's on the ground etc, adjust, render the foot... rinse repeat.) Being able to tell where in heck the shadows really are would be nice too. Better lights would be great. HDRI would be wonderful. Having a semi transparant or a colored transparent mesh so it's easier to pose onto something to work out if it's intersecting etc would be great. Having the tools on floating palettes instead of embedded on the workspace would be nice. (i.e. parameter dials. Do it for all the tools like this) Yes I know P5 still has issues, but it's not as bad as all that. (At least here it isn't) I'd like it to dump unused textures from memory when they are not assigned to a figure. Really it's niggly things with me. Probably "bugs" but some I can live with. (Tho not happy with it and would like to see it fixed, but I can live with it as it is.) I don't like D|S. I don't like the interface at all. I'm too used to P5 now. I'm not a lightwave user, I won't BE a lightwave user because I can't afford it. I use poser. I'm used to that. D|S is too disjointed (It was when I last opened it and I'm not using it anymore, so it may well have improved. Not that I care. I'm not going to bother with it.) Anyway... I prefer P5 over P4/PP. I've long since scrapped P4 in favor of P5. Silke

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