Thanks for the help, but it's kind of vital to keep the textures ( and the cartoon-with-lines display doesn't keep the textures ) The engraved look ( very fine engravings thow ) is indeed what I'm looking for. In fact there is a much finer technique called "hot neadle" to get the result I want. Carving with a hot neadle into a very hard kind of wax or plastic. Peevee