Hmm, appreciate the added knowledge, I've learned a lot I didn't know before, but I started with P5, SR4. Obviously I have a long way to go, and there is a lot I don't know -- heck, I just did my first renders with two or more characters in them recently. Is the memory leakage as bad under WinXP as it was under Win95/98? I had problems with memory leakage in WordPerfect, AOL, Word, etc. under Win95. Where I used to work we solved the memory leak problems by twice a day reboots. Under WinXP Pro it is down to once a day at work (every morning when you log on) and at home I don't reboot XP pro more than once a week or so. The freeze while looking for file stuff is a bit annoying, but teaches me to be careful with the stuff I use. I think if I paid $600 for it I'd be upset, but the current $150 or so price at Amazon.com or half.com isn't so bad.