I would like to post WIP's again in this forum to get feedback from the largest poser community on the net, instead of having them shunted off to the showcase forum because they MAY become a product for sale somewhere. It is great to see peoples WIP's and share ideas in an open forum. People go to showcase to see new products coming out...and that is a different mindset that doesnt give as much opportunity for comment as it would in the open forum. This crack down on WIP postings is what drove me from being as active a participant on this site as I used to be. (and also influenced me to sell my products on other sites which were more open to giving feedback...hell....if they give the comments, it only makes sense to have the product in their stores) Rawn