eferrier: yes i know what you mean sometimes i spend time on a picture, becaue trying to learn new postworks technics, trying to correct bugs and fix it as best as i can... put time into it and try to make it meaningful.. and it got the least attention. on the opposit, i can do a very simple/casual thing (fro me, according to little skill i have) and many people will like it and ask me about how i made thi dumbest effect of mine :) and i mean it is always surprising to have praises or such comments frompeople who have pictures in their gallery that i would dream to even make one day :) one of the last picture i made was trying to push my own limit a bit further and i put time in it. got very few hits and comments...