I agree with shogakusha on 2 points he made. 1. - You're making a move in the right direction by asking the question. 2. - An OT flag would solve a lot of the problems Let's face it. This forum has become a pretty grim place to be lately. It's like a birthday party where someone died and they left the body in a corner. Ever since the last 'crackdown', people seem to be scared to broach any subject that doesn't directly concern poser. Well, that sucks, IMO. I like to come here and I'll help whoever I can, but in the last 2 months, I've been coming less and less. It just ain't much fun any more. 'Do you want to post off topic in here and if so why?' Yes. This is a community and people who are part of a community may share a common interest, but they also talk about other things. If there's a new virus out there, I want to know about it, and this is (was) a good place to find out. Similarly, if someone is ill/happy/fired from work, I may or may not want to know. But at least give me the option of looking. As far as religion, politics, and general lunacy go.... forget it. Keep 'em for the late-night drink and argument sessions. Just add an OT flag and state clearly that NO controversial subjects or outright attacks will be tolerated Would you prefer there to be an off topic type forum instead? No. It just becomes a stamping ground for nutters and idiots. And no one goes anyway, except the real diehard flamers and looneys. I like the Freestuff poster-of-the-month idea. A bit of long-overdue recognition for these people wouldn't go amiss. mac