I've always been amazed by the virulent anti-OT voices who found it so VERY offensive that people who wanted to could get together and talk about just about anything. They've NEVER answered the question - If they hated OT so damned much, WHY the hell did they keep going there? Was it just so they could have an opportunity to be offended by something? It certainly seems so. As it is now, the bulk of the old OT regulars are quite happy, and getting along very well with each other, yakking up a storm (without the vitriol) over at digitalcheryle.com. It seems that the REAL "troublemakers" are the constant-complainers who stayed here, gloating that they have driven off so many former members.