Hi guys

"Dont leave for tomorrow what you can do today". I did it. And now I cant find a freebie texture that was announced this forum a few weeks ago. I describe it: for V3, elf-ears, dark blue ebony... Someone can help me?

Thanks.-

Is this the one you're thinking of? http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=1788324 It's for V1/V2 though, not V3. And it looks like it's not available anymore due to bandwidth issues.

How I can download this texture? Someone who downloaded her can help me???????

HELLS HELLS HELLS *GRUNT

Usual problem - if you grab everything as soon as it appears, you cause a bandwidth problem and the item has to be removed. If you don't, then it's no longer there when you DO want it. Can you say "P2P", anyone?

Can you say "P2P", anyone? Not on this forum, no... :) You could try messaging the creator first, see if they'll e-mail it to you. You shouldn't ask others to redistribute something unless it's specifically permitted in the artist's terms of use.

Try PoserPros, it may be over there

"You shouldn't ask others to redistribute something unless it's specifically permitted in the artist's terms of use." I know that, but I think a general movement towards encouraging P2P distribution of props (WITH THE ARTISTS' CONSENT) would save a lot of grief and bandwidth problems.

I have a 3d model in freestuff. I have seen it appears in P2P searchs. Well... no problemo

Phantast, We most explicitly do not encourage ANY movement towards P2P sharing because it is an extremely slippery slope, and the collateral damage to those who make the stuff is considerable. Carolly Poser Coordinator

Attached Link: http://www.sparkchaser.net/dloads.html

*"We most explicitly do not encourage ANY movement towards P2P sharing because it is an extremely slippery slope, and the collateral damage to those who *make* the stuff is considerable."* What if the freebie maker him- or herself encourages it? (Hell, I do - if it saves me bandwidth and people think enough of my stuff to do it, cool. Go for it; the whole frickin' pile of freebies (linked) is GPL licensed anyway. Hep' yo'self...) ...and in case anyone wonders why I don't announce freebies on R'osity, it is because: 1) Traffic is horrendous if it gets linked from the Free Stuff area, and I dunno how many of the downloaders actually put the thing to use. 2) I want to encourage folks to look around in the wider world out there. 3) I don't feel much like having my items "approved" if they're free (it's a personal thing... ) /P

Penguinisto, There are a few cases where the maker of an item specifically, in writing, allows redistribution. That is part of copyright law... the control of redistribution. We have a handful of people who allow blanket redistribution because they have lost their webhosts or will be gone for a while. In that case, there is a list (I believe it is in the Backroom) which can be referenced when someone asks. If you wish to be added to this list we will do so. Most people simply have a line in their readmes for each item saying whether it is ok to pass it on or not (which makes checking for permission really quick). The problem with P2P stuff is manifold. Authorship gets lost or stolen. People sharing items may forget what they got for free and what they paid for in their generosity to share what isn't theirs. Information about popularity of items never makes it back to the person who created it... which is especially bad if someone intends to sell similar stuff. P2P sharing is absolutely uncontrolled... and a far bigger problem that one member asking another where "such&such" can be found. Carolly Poser Coordinator

"The problem with P2P stuff is manifold. Authorship gets lost or stolen. People sharing items may forget what they got for free and what they paid for in their generosity to share what isn't theirs. Information about popularity of items never makes it back to the person who created it... which is especially bad if someone intends to sell similar stuff." The responsibility lies with whoever shares the files, no? If they get stupid and share the wrong ones, that's their problem, not that of the technology itself. And IMHO, if someone wants an ego kick so badly that they have to count and control every item they put out for free, then perhaps they're doing it for the wrong reasons? (shrug) /P

Wrong reasons? Different, perhaps. But wrong? Care to validate the "wrongness"? Not complaining or pickin a fight, but I find the concept of declaring someone else's reasons for sharing freestuff to be wrong a bit disconcerting. Wasn't aware there was a right reason and a wrong reason to share stuff.

Ego-stroking is, in my opinion, a wrong reason. I'm not much for moral equivocation, I suppose. But hey - free stuff is free stuff, and download it to your heart's content, but if someone is so anal about counting every download and applying it to their ego-stroking ("oh yeah, well you suck because unlike you, my stuff has n downloads!") then it certainly isn't 'right', is it?

An addition: think also of those who have thrown hissy fits in here, pointing to their d/load counts and claiming that the community would come apart without them

/P

Message edited on: 06/23/2004 12:53