I wanted to respond to a couple of ideas above about the monthy challenge. Some thought we should make it more anonymous (anonymous names) and others thought less WIP's in forum would be good. While this is certainly worth discussing, I'll share my view which is just the opposite. I want to move the challenge more towards a community effort than a competitive one against all deal. As for the anonymous names, etc, we have two problems with that. The first is a technical deal in that when I delete and repost an image because an artist has wanted to change their entry, the number changes. So voting by number can lead to real problems. The second is that there have been concerns about what is done in secret. With voting and names out in the open, everyone gets to see what is going on. If a trend or pattern does emerge (and so far we've not had any) then it will be way easier to spot with the openness. As for WIP's, I personally am trying to encourage more. Perhaps we might want a WIP forum, but for now, the WIP's for the challenge should be in this forum. I suppose it would be good to start the thread with "WIP: Your topic phrase next" and let the folks who want to skip that do so. The reason for the WIP's IMHO, is so that we can grow as artists. Its amazing what others see that we miss when we're all engrossed in the image. A little change here or there can change a basic image into something really brilliant. That's what learning and progress is about, so we should take advantage of the comments of others. (And if you don't like the comments, relax, the thread will be buried in a day under the volume of posts here.) I patterned the Poser challenge much like the Bryce challenge. Its a challenge, not a contest, and I want to move away from the contest way of thinking. If a person posts an image to the challenge, that's great. If they post in the forum as a WIP, and make changes, and post a better image to the challenge, that's a better thing because it means they learned something. I want the challenge to be about learning moreso than placing high on the ladder. That's also why I do 3 challengers and honorables. Nevertheless, I have always said this is YOUR challenge, not mine. You pick the themes and your input is always considered. Heck, June relaxed the violence/nudity rules at the suggestion of a member because it simply made sense to do so for this one challenge. EricofSD RIM Senior Technical Editor