If you haven't taken part in one before, you may not know that EricofSD takes the time to run our Monthly challenges in the Poser forum. I haven't forgotten this thread, I'm just looking into a couple of things before getting on to some more answers. I'm still rereading posts, so if you have any more input I'd be glad to hear it. I will be looking at making the Header smaller if possible, but I won't have time to do that until next week at the earliest. Shanna. ps. I take your point dlarsen that there are a few things I could have phrased better. If I came across as condescending or argumentative I apologise as it wasn't my intention. So thank you to everyone who looked past the way I wrote what I did and answered what I was asking. I appreciate everyones input.