Unfortunately I can't convert it to wavefront obj first since I can't get it into a program fully :) I will see if I can run Grouper on my girlfriends computer .. Where is it located? The files come in lwo, 3ds, max and cd4 but but I am trying to work with it in Poser and Bryce. I also tied DAZ Studio but that doesn't have import working yet and ZBrush. That is pretty much what I can work with it in. I think I may have a demo of Vue that I haven't installed but that does no good. I can't remember waht it was modeled in but I will see if I can have the place I bought it fix it .. Just don't really have time.