Not to mention the fact that after a few years exposure to rain, wind, pollution, vandalism etc. even the hardest (stone) edges get a little rounded. Some metal buidings are another matter; they rust/corrode a little, then collapse. Use Agent Smith's textures for the former; allow the cat to walk over the keyboard for the latter:-) Not that (especially with a: my PC spec, b: my impatience) I'd ever bother for anything except close-up stuff unless it really glared... Cheers, Diolma