on the bones, Teyon, try selecting one of them, and then change the display mode for that element (either through the display drop down at the top, or using the drop down next to the display buttons). I like that magnet idea. It would be more flexible overall as well. They did introduce a zoom tool in P5. It works sometimes, too. lol They sort of came closer to the palettes in P5, but dockables arent there yet. I'm personally none too fond of them, but I'm a noted minority. Excellent ideas. Thanks for the responses!

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)