whoa! thanks, guys. :) and 'bump,' in this case means to add a reply to a topic to renew the date on it, so it is sorted to the top of a list that is sorted by response date rather than original post date. (shush, norbert!) yes, mulder, it's just another alien plot to make you question your judgement ;) but don't worry, we caught on to 'em! also thanks for putting the old sort order back on, and apologies to jeff for posting off topic.