I've noticed a few lockups (don't render with the joint editor open), but this has happened in PP as well, so go figure. I love the material room, and the dynamic clothes make certain types of conforming clothing way inferior. Some things, like suites or stuff that has no natrral draping are probably best done with conforming clothing, but otherwise, cloth room is fantastic. I am using V3 for a number of renders, and the system (512 megs) gets slow if I add more than a couple of textures and too many morphs. With mil 2 figures, though, I have no complaints whatsoever (not sure I've ever actually loaded a P5 figure, heh heh) Poser seems to sit at 1 gig with the settings I use, so a system with 1 gig of ram would make a big difference. Also, the smoothing feature is great (except when it smoothes things you don't want smoothed:) V2 and M2 lores are a perfect match for P5! I say, do it! You won't regret it. eric