can we do what without Pro Render?..;) I'm rootin' for ya fella..but it's a sad fact of the times we live in that we tend to respond visually..hope the project goes well..but it would help your cause a lot more to show us comparison pics, etc., or show us things we can't do that it can..we'll be waiting, so take yer time..good luck.

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)