I have a *kinda* lotus flower you can have if you like it. it's here in this Pond image. I found the basic model at 3D cafe and altered it some. you could probably dupe the petals a few times to make a fuller lotus flower. ok this is my first post with an image so if it doesn't work here's where you can see the pic. :)) -Aerilion http://members.home.net/christopher112/images/Pond.jpg