Hi, Ive just come back on line. Xantor, thanks for the message, glad I didnt offend you. Lesbentley, thanks for the info, just shows what happens when you don`t come in to the forum too often, what was once ancient wisdom becomes redundant ramblings. So I now have an answer that not only has no question but is wrong too! Excellent... I did know the answer to the MOR pose question though...