LadyBea32, Machine Claw is correct... and you are so sweet and WISE to ask. Hell, I've been in trouble more times on the Poser forum than I care to think about! :O I've posted threads that I could have sworn were posted to the Product Showcase Forum, but NOT SO. Youd have thought I had masochistic tendencies after learning the hard way over... and over.... again. Eventually, I got it, but in the meantime, ouch! :/ Machine Claw, you are right (AGAIN) about Dodger doing some stellar work, but what I want to know is... WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?! You're not mad at me R-U? (Not even for not putting the Sopwith Camel in any of our drawings? ;) In any event, I'm missin' Yewww! XO, Pam