Some of you amaze me.. here is a cold hard fact.. Bryce was dead.. all that was left was for the corpse to be buried. THAT made me nuts, add to that that if by some miracle another company did pick it up the chances of the community being involved with development the way Daz is already including them would be slim and none. The VERY first thing Daz did upon acquisition was contact as many die hard Brycers as they could, to get them involved. Bryctech and Dar are manning the Bryce forum at Daz and I know Daz is listening closely to their suggestions as well as suggestions from other Brycers. I may not post here often anymore but I have used Bryce since 98 and it is the program that I have always loved the best despite it's particular quirks, the fact that it was dieing was sad to say the least. Now there is hope for it, and not just hope that the program will survive, but hope that it will flourish. I am at least going to take a few moments out to be happy before I look at the cup as half full ;-)