oh yeah..they've been around for awhile..Brycers have used 'em for grass in the foreground..haven't heard any complaints, other than occasionally the server was down..I think they used to be called something like Kurtz-Fernhout, or something to that effect..

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)