Lyrra: "Currently getting Poser figures into bryce is like getting a camel through a keyhole " Come on, this is laughable. It's some work if you do it the first time and if you're an newbie - but after that it's no problem to import Poser meshes into Bryce. And that's your problem - you want an application which does everything for you on fgertip. This is the end of creativity - go and buy some Poser models and render them in 2 minutes in your Poser-ized software. Go and buy yourself some Barbie dolls. J.