Some folks are just never happy. 8( I think this is the best thing that could have happened to Bryce. DAZ have asked us, the Bryce users, to tell them what we want to see in Bryce 6 and I think they will listen to our input, 'cos if they don't they will loose out on a lot of potential customers. Bryce was basically dead in the water, Corel would have quite happily let it sink under and die. This looks like the perfect or nearly perfect way for Bryce to survive and to achieve what it is truely capable of. I'm really happy and at this time I don't really care if others are not, it all depends on whether you still want to be able to use Bryce for a few more years or not. 8) Catlin