I rushed over here to the Bryce forum thinking I could witness the "dancing in the street after the Berlin Wall had been torn down". I'm surprised to hear so many people complaining "but they're destroying my grafitti!" While I know that there are a lot of people who do some Amazing modeling in Bryce and some Amazing abstract images that won't benefit from Daz objects, I doubt that the new Bryce will keep you from doing that. The anti-Daz contingent: Is it mostly new modeling tools you want? I can understand wanting them. Sorry there isn't more joy over here as I thought. Personally I had to give up on Bryce because of it's limitations and creating environments (as beautiful as they were) devoid of people just wasn't working for my needs. Hopefully I might be able to revive my presence here. Best of luck to us all.