"A speculation I have seen on another site (which may not be mentioned by name) is that Daz may have wanted to get their hands on Bryce partly to be able to copy the interface into D|S and thereby make it more Poser-like." Man, I hope not! Bryce's interface is one of the reasons I moved to Vue. And I won't move back unless they clean it up. The Poser/Bryce artsy-fartsy interface sucks. People only like it because it's what they're used to. They'd be pleasantly surprised at how easy it is to move to a clean, fast, streamlined, funtional interface...like I was when I went from Bryce to Vue. And give me Vue-like layers (all 3d apps should have this). And direct import of pz3's and DS files. If they won't do that, I wonder if they'll let e-on support DS import in Vue? waves back at ynsaen